Final Fantasy VIII

Optional GFs

These notes GF AbilityTakes physical attacks in place of a party member. Learned by Brothers. the SystemGuardian Forces are FF8's summons and the source of most junction, command, support, refine, and stat-growth abilities. that are not acquired as part of the simplest story route, plus the oddballs that do not behave like normal junctioned SystemGuardian Forces are FF8's summons and the source of most junction, command, support, refine, and stat-growth abilities..

Odin (Disc 2)

Welcome to the Centra Ruins. You remember the Centra, right? They got caught up in Sepharoth’s plan to… No, wait. That was the Cetra. Anyway, you can get a really weird SystemGuardian Forces are FF8's summons and the source of most junction, command, support, refine, and stat-growth abilities. here. To get to the Centra Ruins, where you can get Guardian ForceOptional Centra Ruins summon that randomly appears at battle start. Odin does not junction like a normal GF. and Guardian ForceGuardian Force earned by defeating enough Tonberries in the Centra Ruins. Tonberry brings LV Up, LV Down, shop abilities, and useful economy tricks., start out at Shumi Village. (Don’t forget my favorite magic you can get here!) Keep the small globe map up for this. Go north. When you come to the centra land mass, follow it around to the right (counter clockwise). After a while you will be on the north side of a tiny strip of land connecting the two pieces of centra. From here head due north and you should be able to go up onto the land. When you get on to the land, turn your vessle to face east. You should see something big. Go there. Prepair your guys, then save your game right outside the ruins. To prep your guys, make sure they are almost totally dead, and that you have GF AbilityPrevents most random encounters. Learned by Diablos. turned on. If you don’t have GF AbilityPrevents most random encounters. Learned by Diablos. this could be tricky, but it’s still do able, just RUN from any battle you get into! See the timer at the top left? You have to beat Guardian ForceOptional Centra Ruins summon that randomly appears at battle start. Odin does not junction like a normal GF. before it runs out. You can’t really do it if you are getting sucked into battles every 30 seconds. So, set the guys and head in. You did remember they should be close to dead, right? Renzokuken can make this a very quick battle, and this enemy is the only one in the game that won’t hit you back.

You should be granted access to the chamber of Guardian ForceOptional Centra Ruins summon that randomly appears at battle start. Odin does not junction like a normal GF.. Make sure someone can GF AbilityReplaces Attack with a stealing attack. Learned by Diablos and Bahamut., then head inside. When I finally got in to see him, I had 15:00 left on my timer. It was enough time to beat him, but only because I had awesome limit breaks for Squall, Zell and Quistis. Well, that may be a slight exageration. I think I beat him in 3:08 seconds. Oh yeah, you did remember to keep your guys almost dead here, right? Don’t worry about healing, as Guardian ForceOptional Centra Ruins summon that randomly appears at battle start. Odin does not junction like a normal GF. won’t attack you. Go through the open chamber door, steal (GF AbilityReplaces Attack with a stealing attack. Learned by Diablos and Bahamut.) a ItemGF learns Luck-J ability, and just wail on him until he is dead. You will receive a ItemRestores 1000 HP to all GF, Odin’s Card and 20AP. It may sound a little anti-climactic, but it’s acctually kinda cool. What really happens is that Guardian ForceOptional Centra Ruins summon that randomly appears at battle start. Odin does not junction like a normal GF. will now randomly show up and vanquish your opponents. It’s pretty cool I think. Now leave the ruins SAVE YOUR GAME and come back, if you think you can get Guardian ForceGuardian Force earned by defeating enough Tonberries in the Centra Ruins. Tonberry brings LV Up, LV Down, shop abilities, and useful economy tricks. too. (See below.)

Tonberry (Disc 2)

WARNING: DIFFICULT! Possibly long, too. This section took me 1.75 hours. Head to the centra ruins (see ‘Guardian ForceOptional Centra Ruins summon that randomly appears at battle start. Odin does not junction like a normal GF. for directions). SAVE YOUR GAME BEFORE ENTERING THE RUINS. Wander around killing Guardian ForceGuardian Force earned by defeating enough Tonberries in the Centra Ruins. Tonberry brings LV Up, LV Down, shop abilities, and useful economy tricks.. These guys will counter with Everybody’s Grudge, which does massive damage to anyone that has killed a bunch of enemies (i.e., Squall gets hit with 9999 dmg every time.) However, they don’t seem to counter attack if you’re hiting them with a limit break. I like to use Squall and Irvine near death for these battles, and one other character will full health - just to prep for the final Guardian ForceGuardian Force earned by defeating enough Tonberries in the Centra Ruins. Tonberry brings LV Up, LV Down, shop abilities, and useful economy tricks. encounter. After defeating 18+ of these guys, Guardian ForceGuardian Force earned by defeating enough Tonberries in the Centra Ruins. Tonberry brings LV Up, LV Down, shop abilities, and useful economy tricks. decides to come out and protect his subjects. EEP! If you can beat him, you deserve this SystemGuardian Forces are FF8's summons and the source of most junction, command, support, refine, and stat-growth abilities.! You can’t steel anything. Invincible moon (Rinoa and Angelo) is very cool. BTW: You can draw life from him, if you need to.

My strategy on this one is to get Squall REALLY powerfull while staying at a low level (think high-level magic junctions), then attempt it. Guardian ForceGuardian Force earned by defeating enough Tonberries in the Centra Ruins. Tonberry brings LV Up, LV Down, shop abilities, and useful economy tricks. seems less likly to attack you unless you have first attacked him, so I only attack using limit breaks. This takes a bit of patience, but it can be done, and it decereases the time you spend fighting Guardian ForceGuardian Force earned by defeating enough Tonberries in the Centra Ruins. Tonberry brings LV Up, LV Down, shop abilities, and useful economy tricks. quite a bit. If you don’t prepare well, this can be one of the hardest SystemGuardian Forces are FF8's summons and the source of most junction, command, support, refine, and stat-growth abilities. to get. His GF AbilityImproves shop inventories, making rare items easier to buy. Learned by Tonberry. skill makes it worth it to get early on, though, if you can.

So let’s prepare well, shall we? To help defeat tonberrys, I make sure two of my characters are close to death all the time. It means I use a fair bit of life magic or ItemRemoves KO Status, but it also means I can use their limit breaks. Tonberrys (even Guardian ForceGuardian Force earned by defeating enough Tonberries in the Centra Ruins. Tonberry brings LV Up, LV Down, shop abilities, and useful economy tricks.!) are weak to the Vit 0 stat - so hit them with a Meltdown spell and you’ll do 25%-33% more damage with each attack. If you junction Flare to your Str, you can kill Guardian ForceGuardian Force earned by defeating enough Tonberries in the Centra Ruins. Tonberry brings LV Up, LV Down, shop abilities, and useful economy tricks. off after two or three Limit Breaks. If you don’t have Meltdown, Quistis can use Bad Breath on them, which also makes it quite a bit easier.

To help defeat Guardian ForceGuardian Force earned by defeating enough Tonberries in the Centra Ruins. Tonberry brings LV Up, LV Down, shop abilities, and useful economy tricks., be sure you have at least one character that has full HP. He uses something called “Junk” that can kill off your guys with surprising speed (800+ damage each). If you keep the other two near death, though, you can make use of limit breaks. Again Meltdown is your friend. Using the above info, I pretty easily defeated him with Squall (30), Zell (10), and Irvine (13). You probably don’t even need Squall at that high a level, but I like having him somewhat buff by this point (using the Junction AbilityAllows a character to equip four character abilities at once. Learned by Bahamut. and Vit/Str/Mag/Stat Bonus AbilityPermanently adds +1 Spr when the junctioned character levels up. Learned by Leviathan and Cactuar. abilities junctioned.)

MiniMog (Disc 2)

If you play the PocketStation game (and rescue Guardian ForcePocketStation-related GF support summon. It can heal GFs in battle, mostly for the cute factor.) you can get “Mog’s Amulet” which should allow your SystemGuardian Forces are FF8's summons and the source of most junction, command, support, refine, and stat-growth abilities. to learn how to summon Mog to come in battle. All he does is give you back a few hit points, so in my opinion it’s not really worth it, though I acknowledge that some people also like to play for the “cute” factor.

Chocobo (Disc 2)

This is the only SystemGuardian Forces are FF8's summons and the source of most junction, command, support, refine, and stat-growth abilities. summoned by using an Item. Use “Gysahl Greens” (during a battle, obviously) to summon Guardian ForceItem-summoned GF effect using Gysahl Greens after obtaining a chocobo. It does not junction like a normal GF.. This only works after you have succeeded in obtaining a Guardian ForceItem-summoned GF effect using Gysahl Greens after obtaining a chocobo. It does not junction like a normal GF., though. If you are playing the PC game, you can make this attack more powerfull by playing the PocketStation adventure that ships with the game. (Anyone know how to make it more powerful on the PS?!?)

Gilgamesh (Disc 3)

If you get Guardian ForceOptional Centra Ruins summon that randomly appears at battle start. Odin does not junction like a normal GF. (see above) then when you defeat Seifer at the end of Disc 3 you’ll get a neat surprise. Now when Guardian ForceOdin-related Disc 3 summon that can replace Odin after Seifer. Gilgamesh appears randomly and uses one of several attacks. comes, all you have to do is choose an attack. Make sure you don’t use “Excalipur” (does not damage) , unless you are trying to run away from your enemies so as to avoid gaining experience and leveling up. (Yes there are reasons to keep your character’s at low levels. Determining why is left as an excersise for the reader).

Doomtrain (Disc 3+)

Guardian ForceStatus-heavy Guardian Force summoned with Solomon Ring plus the required items. Doomtrain is excellent for elemental/status junction coverage and forbidden medicine refinement. can only be called once you have the ‘ItemMysterious old ring (Summon Doomtrain) that you get from Tears’ Point. Once you get to Esthar, you should see it on your main map. Go there and pick it up from the ground around the statues. In order to call Guardian ForceStatus-heavy Guardian Force summoned with Solomon Ring plus the required items. Doomtrain is excellent for elemental/status junction coverage and forbidden medicine refinement., you need to use that ring when you have the proper elements. The elements are the ones listed in the 3 other Magazine SeriesMagazine series with hints for the Doomtrain side quest and other weirdness. magazenes. You need at least 6 ItemGF learns SumMag+10% ability, ItemQuistis can learn Blue Magic, Bad Breath and ItemCures abnormal status and Magic effects.

When you have those, use the ring from the item menu. GF AbilityRefines Triple Triad cards into items, which can often be refined again into strong magic. Learned by Quezacotl. ItemGF learns SumMag+10% ability from Elastoids, ItemQuistis can learn Blue Magic, Bad Breath from Malboro cards, and use Guardian ForceHoly-element Guardian Force drawn from Edea in Galbadia Garden. Alexander brings Revive, Med Data, Med LV Up, and high magic refinement. Refine AbilityImproves medicine items to stronger versions. Learned by Alexander. ability (Learn Refine AbilityDoubles the effectiveness of medicine items used by the junctioned character. Learned by Alexander. to unlock this on) to get ItemCures abnormal status and Magic effects from Remedies. NOTE: It looks like you can do this on Disc 4, too. Tears’ Point is accessable from the world map. Also of interest, if you happen to get a Soloman’s Ring before you get to Tears’ Point (cough cheater cough) you can call Guardian ForceStatus-heavy Guardian Force summoned with Solomon Ring plus the required items. Doomtrain is excellent for elemental/status junction coverage and forbidden medicine refinement. as soon as you get it. You can draw Life and Reflect while at Tears’ Point.

Cactuar (Disc 3)

This may be one of the best SystemGuardian Forces are FF8's summons and the source of most junction, command, support, refine, and stat-growth abilities. to have junctioned at any given time. Guardian ForceGuardian Force from Cactuar Island. Cactuar is the prize for stat-bonus leveling because it knows HP, Str, Vit, Mag, and Spr Bonus abilities. comes knowing bonus abilities for HP, Str, Vit, Mag and Spr. Junction him with Junction AbilityAllows a character to equip four character abilities at once. Learned by Bahamut. and you can REALLY get a high-power character while leveling up. Combine that with the Guardian ForceGuardian Force earned by defeating enough Tonberries in the Centra Ruins. Tonberry brings LV Up, LV Down, shop abilities, and useful economy tricks. GF AbilityRaises an enemy's level during battle, improving available draws/drops but increasing danger. Learned by Tonberry. command, and you can get seriously powerful guys. Every time my cactuar-junctioned character levels up, he or she gets and extra point in str, vit, mag, and spr. That’s pretty powerful! You can only get Guardian ForceGuardian Force from Cactuar Island. Cactuar is the prize for stat-bonus leveling because it knows HP, Str, Vit, Mag, and Spr Bonus abilities. on Cactuar Island. To get to Cactuar Island, you must get the Rangnarok (on disc 3). The first thing you must do (I’m not kidding) is JUNCTION ITEMS TO EVERY MEMBER OF THE GROUP!.

When Guardian ForceGuardian Force from Cactuar Island. Cactuar is the prize for stat-bonus leveling because it knows HP, Str, Vit, Mag, and Spr Bonus abilities. attacks, he can occasionally use something called the attact of A THOUSAND CLUBS!!!! No WAIT, that’s Kodachi from Ranma 1/2. Sorry. He actually uses something called the attach of 10,000 needles, which is (of course) an order of magnitude worse. When you first get the Ragnarok, head south and a little west to get to a little island with desert on it. A BIG cactus will show up occasionally. When it does, run toward it begin the attack. When you start the battle, try to keep your characters alive. Use ItemRemoves KO Status (you do have item-junction, RIGHT?!?) to keep your party ‘In the Yellow’ so that they can use their Limit Breaks. When you beat him, be sure to junction him quickly so that you can use his skills! BTW: You can GF AbilityReplaces Attack with a stealing attack. Learned by Diablos and Bahamut. some ItemCactuar's Thorn (Compat Cactuar +3) from him.

Bahamut (Disc 3)

To get Guardian ForcePowerful Guardian Force earned at the Deep Sea Research Center. Bahamut comes with Abilityx4 and high-end offensive support. you need the Rangnarok (in other words, you must be on at least Disc 3.) Be sure you save before attempting this battle. Head to the island research center. Head to the Southwest corner of the square version of the world map. Just Northeast of the far Southwest corner, you’ll see a floating platform. Land the Ragnorok there. You must HAVE ZELL IN YOUR PARTY WHEN YOU LAND; be sure not to have FIRE or THUNDER juctioned to attack on any characters! Also, be sure your guys are at Max HP, or can absorb Fire attacks. >.< When you have finished listening to Zell’s speach, head into the facility.

First up, a little prep. You’ll want to be able to GF AbilityReplaces Attack with a stealing attack. Learned by Diablos and Bahamut. and LV-Down here, if possible. Also, you’ll want to be able to card, if you don’t want to get lots of XP out of this. There is a machine on the right side of the screen which you will be walking toward… ONLY move when the BLUE LIGHT IS OFF and the dancing squares are invisible! If you move while it’s running you WILL have to fight a TON of enemies. Walking only when it is ‘resting,’ you must make your way to the front right of the machine. I found GF AbilityPrevents most random encounters. Learned by Diablos. to be almost a necesity. Also, there’s an enemy here with Full-Life to draw. I like to transfer OUT all my Full-Life so I can stock up here, since it’s a hard one to get otherwise. If you have LV-Up and LV-Down available, you can LV-Up a Red Dragon and learn both Flare and Meteor from it. (Or if your guys are high enough levels already.) If you want to do that, transfer those magic to another character. Finally, I’d be sure to have Pain Status-Atk for as many characters as possible. Guardian ForcePowerful Guardian Force earned at the Deep Sea Research Center. Bahamut comes with Abilityx4 and high-end offensive support. can hit for serious damage, and he’s surprisingly vulnerable to Darkness. Also, you may want to check that your SystemGuardian Forces are FF8's summons and the source of most junction, command, support, refine, and stat-growth abilities. are set to learn things that will require 60+ AP.

Right. So, after a brief bit of conversation you may begain walking around. Head right until it says, “You have percieved the resonance.” Next head right and then forward (if you are blocked by a vine, you’ll have to come toward the bottom of the screen before you can go all the way right; once you’ve gone around the longest vine, you can head toward the device). There is a panel you’ll see on the machine - be sure to be healed up all the way before you get there.

Once there it will ask you three questions which you will have to choose the answers to based on a menu that pops up. For the first question you have only one choice (“It’s not our will to fight”). The next question should be answered with ‘Never’. The third answer is the mostly hidden last response ( .) Choosing that will cause you to fight Guardian ForcePowerful Guardian Force earned at the Deep Sea Research Center. Bahamut comes with Abilityx4 and high-end offensive support.. Finish him off to aquire him. I mugged a Hyper-Wrist off him. Once you have him, be sure to see what cool stuff you can get using his “Forbidden-Magic Refine” skill. You can turn an ItemSame effect as Ultima. With Bahamut's Forbid Mag-RF, 1 Ultima Stone refines into 1 Ultima. into Ultima, for example. Once you aquire Guardian ForcePowerful Guardian Force earned at the Deep Sea Research Center. Bahamut comes with Abilityx4 and high-end offensive support., you have to “change regions” before you come back and go for the BossOptional superboss in Ultimecia Castle. Bring 9999 HP, Aura, Holy War, and a willingness to get worked.. I recommend going back to the Rangnorok and then having your guys walk around the ship for a few seconds. This seems to reset it. When you have walked around, return to try for the Ultima Weapon (if you dare!) See Guardian ForceUltimate Guardian Force drawn from Ultima Weapon. Eden can break the normal damage limit and brings late-game ability refinement. below, but be sure to junction your new magic if you drew any.

Eden (Disc 3)

When you get the Rangnarok, you can try for Guardian ForceUltimate Guardian Force drawn from Ultima Weapon. Eden can break the normal damage limit and brings late-game ability refinement.. It’s tough, but you have to persever. To obtain this SystemGuardian Forces are FF8's summons and the source of most junction, command, support, refine, and stat-growth abilities., head to the bottom left corner of the square map and look for a little Island looking thing. It’s just barely north-east of the main south-west corner. When you land, you will have to Obtain Guardian ForcePowerful Guardian Force earned at the Deep Sea Research Center. Bahamut comes with Abilityx4 and high-end offensive support. (see Guardian ForcePowerful Guardian Force earned at the Deep Sea Research Center. Bahamut comes with Abilityx4 and high-end offensive support. above) and leave the island. After leaving the Island walk around somewhere else (even abord the Rangnarok seems to work) then return. Upon entering the complex this time you will be able to save your game at a save point nearby.

Do so, then cross the makeshift bridge and descend into the abyss (The stick didn’t work for me - I had to use the left directional arrow.) Draw Dispel if you want, then talk to Quistis/Zell/whoever to begin examination of the nearby terminal. Let it explain what is going on and the trapdoor in the floor will be opened up. When it’s opened, head down and examine the nearby terminal. The way this puzzle works is that you have to expend just enough energy (steam) to get through the floors so that you can still have some energy to open the door at the bottom. Here are the levels you have to set in order (ignore the numbers on the walls):

It looks like nothing happens, but there is actually an elevator you have to take to get to level 6. Once there, let Zell bang around on the machine then go through the big door that opens up to access the lower levels. If you can equip “Encounter None” I strongly recommend you do. At the top of the staircase is also a Save Point. It’s probably a good idea to use it. Go down, but remember that at least every other stairway or platform has an encounter you cannot escape from. Here Guardian ForceOptional Centra Ruins summon that randomly appears at battle start. Odin does not junction like a normal GF. is your friend (or nemesis, if you’re trying not to level up). Also, when you are fighting certain enemies, here’s a strategy you might like:

Fighting for Eden

I really hope you saved 10 pressure by following the instructions above. Very few things are as irritating in this game as getting all the way here only to realize you DIDN’T leave enough steam pressure to open this last door. Then you have to go all the way back up through that mess and try all the levers, and then come all the way back down to see if it worked! Anyway, you saved at the hidden save point, right? You’ll get 100 AP for this battle, so don’t waste it. Set your guys to learn stuff you care about. Be sure you have the ability to cast aura on Squall, and be sure you can draw Guardian ForceUltimate Guardian Force drawn from Ultima Weapon. Eden can break the normal damage limit and brings late-game ability refinement.! Make sure you are well equiped (this guy is TOUGH!)

He does have ultima you can draw, but he’s going to attack with super powerful magic, so drawing might be tough. Junction Quake to everyone’s Elemental Defense! Junction GF AbilityReplaces Attack with a stealing attack. Learned by Diablos and Bahamut. to whoever has the highest speed, or at least make sure speed is high for whoever has it. You want to be able to GF AbilityReplaces Attack with a stealing attack. Learned by Diablos and Bahamut. the 3 Stars, if possible. Also, be sure folks can cast magic, draw (at least one - you WANT the Guardian ForceUltimate Guardian Force drawn from Ultima Weapon. Eden can break the normal damage limit and brings late-game ability refinement. SystemGuardian Forces are FF8's summons and the source of most junction, command, support, refine, and stat-growth abilities., and others may want Ultima magic), and use items to GF AbilityRevives a KO'd party member in battle. Learned by Alexander.. Don’t be afraid to use your most powerful ItemRestores HP by 200 here! This is arguably one of the two hardest battles in the game, so those ItemRestores HP by 200 were given to you “for such a time as this.” Also, you may want to set your battle speed down quite a bit. Do you have any ItemMakes character invincible stones / spells? Those render you invincible for a short time. Use the hidden save point to switch in your lowest level characters. The power of his attacks correlate to the average of your characters levels. I like to go in with low level Selphie, low-level Irvine, and Squall. Make sure you have plenty of ItemArmor-piercing ammo available. If Squall doesn’t have the Lionheart weapon, use Aura on Irvine (limit breaks galore!) and have him use his limit break with ItemArmor-piercing ammo.

After you pull the lever you will fight the Ultima Weapon. First things first; draw Guardian ForceUltimate Guardian Force drawn from Ultima Weapon. Eden can break the normal damage limit and brings late-game ability refinement.. Guardian ForceUltimate Guardian Force drawn from Ultima Weapon. Eden can break the normal damage limit and brings late-game ability refinement. is easily the best SystemGuardian Forces are FF8's summons and the source of most junction, command, support, refine, and stat-growth abilities.. Next, GF AbilityReplaces Attack with a stealing attack. Learned by Diablos and Bahamut. a ItemGF learns Expendx3-1 ability from him. Third, case Meltdown (you NEED VIT 0 here!) After that, wail on him. Can you say Aura? I knew you could! If you happen to have Squall land a Lionheart, it’s essentially all over. As far as I can tell, the whole reason they made you fight so many battles you couldn’t run from on the way down was to level your characters all up at least 20 levels. Shrewd, eh? But the catch is that high-level characters must fight high-level enemies. This guy level is directly related to your characters. Kill this dude and get back up to the top (thank your lucky stars for GF AbilityPrevents most random encounters. Learned by Diablos. here; Does anyone else miss the days of “warp” spells?)

Why Eden?

OK. I’ve had some emails complaining that I don’t really explain why anyone would want this SystemGuardian Forces are FF8's summons and the source of most junction, command, support, refine, and stat-growth abilities.. Basically, he kicks serious posterier. He can break the 9999 limit ItemQuistis can learn Blue Magic, Mighty Guard, and you can “boost” him up to 250, easily the highest of any SystemGuardian Forces are FF8's summons and the source of most junction, command, support, refine, and stat-growth abilities.. For example, when fighting Chimeras, even low-level characters can land in excess of 17,000 pts of damage using this guy. So to sum it up: He rocks!